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18degrees

Hey all, for those of you (like me) who want a Salvinos modified, the Burt Myers ones are available from Mike as of today. I was in contact with him about them and he sent me an email tonight saying they were up on the site.

Better hurry though… the first ones seem impossible to find and if you can come across one on ebay they are expensive.
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Papadoc · Joined: 30 Apr 2018 Posts: 95

Thanks for the heads up!!

Is there a reason for them to not keep the modified kits rolling? I really don't want to buy any new models now but I also don't want to miss out. Really want to build a modified for my collection.

18degrees · Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:50 pm Post subject:

From what i understand, and if i’m wrong someone please jump in and correct me, but Salvinos had to find a partner to fund the kit, as it was going to be more expensive than what they wanted or were able to spend. Seems that Wes’ Model Car Corner jumped in… my LHS said that the modified hasn’t been showing up on their distributor website. Also it hasn’t been on Salvinos website either.

So, again, get ‘em while they’re hot… and available.
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18degrees · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:17 am Post subject:

I just checked Mike’s site out of curiosity and they are sold out ALREADY

Oh, on a side note, i will have one available for sale in a week or so, asking price will be eleventy billion dollars. Also have a Salvino Roadrunner available for the same price. Laughing

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jh63fan · Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Posts: 352 Location: Tarheel State

Maybe there's a message for Salvino JR. Instead of twenty different Camaros, how about a couple modifieds. I imagine the resin casters and 3D printers would get involved with some parts for variations. Can't do that for the spec Camaro..

jh63fan · Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Posts: 352 Location: Tarheel State

Just looked at Wes's site and he is out of stock also.
He is involved with producing this kit as you said, so I thought maybe he would have some.

#72 · Joined: 22 Feb 2018 Posts: 26

Mike has some now, just bought one. Looks like he's releasing his a few at a time.

Reyst · Joined: 08 Feb 2018 Posts: 29

I believe Salvinos is producing the modified for Wes, but the sales and distribution is Wes’s deal. I could be wrong, but I don’t foresee Salvinos JR models popping out any Modifieds of their own anytime soon.

bangor boy · Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 451

Whatever the overall details are with Salvinos and other parties, it's pretty cool to be seeing words like 'sold out' popping up around recent model kit releases.

Obviously, no kit will ever be perfect down to the last rivet, but great to learn of these success stories nowadays. Can't say that many of us were anticipating this happening a few years back.

18degrees · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:54 pm Post subject:

Mike’s is showing sold out again.
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WR · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 124

Southern Motorsports Hobbies has them

martinfan · Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 270

Razorback 46 · Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 454

Sooo... model builders have waited for ages to get a modern style modified and they are creating artificial scarcity? I don't understand it.

Pat Redmond · Board Moderator Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 304

It's up to Wes Hurst of Wes's Model Car Corner to decide on run size.
Wes has chosen 2500 per driver going out.
Salvino's doesn't control those numbers.
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Pat Redmond · Board Moderator Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 304

Razorback 46 · Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 454

Any word on if they will ever release one without decals like they did for some of the NASCAR kits? Also, we're there ever any pre-orders for these? I don't remember see anything about them prior to them popping up on Mike's site.

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18degrees · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:52 pm Post subject:

Mike does do pre-orders on some items that are anticipated to be hot sellers. He will post on his site about contacting him directly thru the site and he will arrange for some sort of partial pre-payment. He did it with the first modified, actually.
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Tom M. · Board Moderator Joined: 01 Feb 2018 Posts: 602

I'm not privy to the exact details of the various agreements but based on what I do know about private runs and the typical contracts with drivers and NASCAR there are a few factors at work.

First, between January 1 and the Daytona 500 (maybe even the Fontana Clash) Salvino's will be contractually obligated to deliver some known quantity of 2022 and 2023 Camaros and Mustangs for distribution through the NASCAR souvenir trailers, affiliated websites and storefronts, and the teams themselves. I believe that's why the first two runs of Modifieds were slipped in during the month of December and the short run '71 Roadrunner was slipped in during November, to take advantage of a time when interest in 2022 NASCAR schemes was lower and to clear the plate to run wide-open on meeting delivery contracts on the 2023 NASCAR contract.

Second, it's typical for most of the private label contracts to require most or all of the payment up-front for the kits. I can't blame Wes for being a little conservative on the first run, now he's presumably built up some operating capital and has a better understanding of how many actual cash-in-hand buyers for his products are out there. I don't disagree with his policy of limiting numbers of each set of decals/box art since the plastic is unchanged, if I was planning and marketing those kits I would try to hit different regions and series with those team-specific runs to keep each run a sellout and avoid having to discount to move subsequent runs. They will definitely need to be scheduled around the increasing number of contracts Salvino's is becoming obligated to, however. In addition to their current NASCAR contract they are rumored to be obligated to release a set number of versions of kits for each of their historic driver/team licensing deals as well and they've pretty well plucked the low-hanging fruit of the Disco Monte/Olds 442/old Monogram G-body tooling. I look for them to hit some Monogram Thunderbird low-hanging fruit to fulfill their Allison/Ranier/Yarborough/JJ&A contracts with the '81-'82, '83-'86, '87-'88, and '89-'93 Thunderbird tools over the next couple of years.

As far as more historic tooling I don't see any historic Ford/Mercury tooling in the near future, just repops of the existing tooling they acquired from Atlantis through the Revell sale of assets. Their plate is too full of other obligations and other than a couple of versions of an Allison Big Bird I don't see much opportunity for them to fulfill their current obligations with a Ford or Mercury. They've committed to doing a Superbird, they might leverage that into a Daytona in the future to cover more Baker/Allison obligations (I know that nothing is interchangeable in the 1:1 between the Daytona and Superbird but in the scale model world the mold core should be mostly re-usable with a different cavity half and slides along with inserts or a different sprue for nosecone/wings/fender scoops between Daytona and Superbird) but that's probably wishful thinking.

After that, what's really left that could be released as a Petty car? I don't see them doing a late '50s-early '60s car. Maybe a dedicated '66-'67 Belvedere race car? '68 Roadrunner (which would have few other options beyond the Petty version)? '65 Barracuda drag car?

As I say, no current insider info but that's how I see it going.

BVAUGHN · Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 504

Agree with Tom. Do not know what or if Wes used any distributors or not. I know my hobby shop was having to contact Salvino & Wes directly. I ordered a Myers’s kit from an online hobby shop in September and as of yesterday, his distributor still doesn’t have any of the kits.
Bill

18degrees · Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:12 pm Post subject:

DaveVan · Joined: 27 Jan 2018 Posts: 1578

The only Ford I can see as a maybe is Montego/Cougar. I forget which one or year it was but other that the Woods, Moore/Allison tried one for a while. And the last Merc Penske ran was the same IIRC. So you can get 3 big teams and maybe a few independents or ARCA. Just a hope and a prayer more than likely.

TonyK · Joined: 21 Feb 2018 Posts: 115

Ordered the Myers Modified from Mike's on December 28th and it still says "pending". A bit odd.

Got the other modified from him also so confident it will all work out.

Dennis O · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:25 am Post subject:

#72 · Joined: 22 Feb 2018 Posts: 26

Me three.....

Dennis O · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm Post subject:

I just got an update that mine shipped today...
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TonyK · Joined: 21 Feb 2018 Posts: 115

Me too.

spooker · Joined: 11 Feb 2018 Posts: 437

I got mine the other day, looked thru one of them, pretty impressive (& accurate). My only disappointment is the body isn't removable, might just build up a naked chassis for display. Our former neighbor's son was modified track champ 2 or 3 years in a row at Spencer Speedway, near Rochester, NY.

randman · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 66

Mike had a note on the website last night that there were going to be some delays if you had the Burt Myers kit as part or your order due to the volume of orders received. It looks like they are catching up and are now shipping as others have indicated.

martinfan · Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 270

FWIW, I just got a shipping notice for mine from Southern Motorsports Hobbies, I ordered it on the 30th of Dec, less than 24 hours, the listing was gone from the website.

I sent Ronnie an email the other day to get an update and it sounds like it wasnt in stock when I ordered it but he was able to procure a few more.

BVAUGHN · Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 504

I think some vendors are spreading out their inventory instead of putting all of them available at one time
Bill

Pat Redmond · Board Moderator Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 304

Wes is learning the distribution system with these releases.
Please give him time. Smile

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BVAUGHN · Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 504

Mike had 2 more Meyers kits online tonite. I was a little slow at checkout & missed on both
Bill

Pat Redmond · Board Moderator Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 304

They're selling like hotcakes!
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Taz · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Ontario, Canada

Has anyone else checked e-bay? one is being bid on right now and it's at $177.00 Shocked

and there is still over 2 days left to bid.

Shocked

18degrees · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:06 am Post subject:

Dennis O · Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:34 am Post subject:

What an idiot I am, I plan on using mine as the base to build an extreme figure 8 car. Ah, when you get old you can do what you darn well please. ..cheers

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Taz · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Ontario, Canada

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18 degrees wrote.......

If that’s the same auction i saw, it is for both the #4 and #1 together.

However, the highest i saw a #4 go for was $102

No it's just one . https://www.ebay.com/itm/304758464531

Ron

18degrees · Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:18 pm Post subject:

Gary66 · Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:50 pm Post subject:

The next 3 modified runs are the Boehler # 3 and two others, the Boehler kit will be 2500 units, the other 2 will be 1500.

I foresee a number of people copying and 3D printing this kit on the side, if the demand remains high. I'm not condoning or condeming such an action. But the facts are 3D printers are becoming more available to the masses. Right now, I am hesitant to build the few I have, they may finance my retirement one day.

Salvino's has Nascar Gen 6 contracts to fill, they may not have the time to make another run of modifieds anytime soon. I highly doubt they would lease out the tooling to another company either. So there you have it.