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TVENN
Joined: 08 Jul 2022 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:01 pm Post subject: NASCAR modeling - the “lean years”..what happened? |
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Hey all…
Looking for a little history lesson.
I tuned out of modeling around 2002.
I tuned out of NASCAR altogether around 2008.
I’ve just started getting back into it (hence my posts looking for decals, etc)….but what I’ve noticed during my searches…
There seems to be an “empty space” for Revell models, etc from 2007 to about 2014. Am I right here? What happened? Did model makers just give up on producing kits? Was NASCAR charging too much for licensing? Was it the CoT?
Here’s an example: was there ever a Toyota Camry kit made? If not…why not?
I’m definitely NOT asking to “stir the pot”…I’m just in the re-learning phase and like to know about what I missed out on over those years….
All replies are very welcome!
Tony |
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bigryan18
Joined: 29 Jan 2018 Posts: 191
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Revell got out of making Nascar kits after 2007, I don't remember why but but did jump back in with a new agreement with the series to produce the Gen 6 cars. Camry kits were never produced because it's been said that Toyota didn't want an American country to make them. AMT is the only company that made the C.O.T. kits but only Chevy's, you may be a to find Dodge, Ford, and Toyota in resin.. |
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TVENN
Joined: 08 Jul 2022 Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Wow! Interesting stuff.
I had no idea about Toyota’s stance on models.
After I posted my first comment/question…I got to thinking about the die cast market. Is that still big or did it suffer a bit in the same time span? |
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hurricane21
Joined: 05 Feb 2018 Posts: 211 Location: Fayetteville NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Revell claimed it was too costly to obtain all the licensing necessary to put out good kits. It somewhat makes sense because this was the era when licensing NASCAR stuff was at it's craziest peak. I think a lot of it had to do with Revell not being a well run company. The die cast industry went through some this too and that hobby is much different today than it was in the 80's-2010's. |
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jh63fan
Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Posts: 352 Location: Tarheel State
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Good old fashioned GREED. Everybody had their hand in the cookie jar. On the C.O.T., Nascar said they came up with the design, so they wanted a fee. The drivers, teams and car manufacturers all wanted something. Even GoodYear want a royalty, so that is why you see some kits with no tire markings or product decals. It just got too much for the kit producers to spend. I know a resin caster who received letters from various companies wanting a fee. |
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TVENN
Joined: 08 Jul 2022 Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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jh63fan wrote: | Good old fashioned GREED. Everybody had their hand in the cookie jar. On the C.O.T., Nascar said they came up with the design, so they wanted a fee. The drivers, teams and car manufacturers all wanted something. Even GoodYear want a royalty, so that is why you see some kits with no tire markings or product decals. It just got too much for the kit producers to spend. I know a resin caster who received letters from various companies wanting a fee. |
NOW THIS IS INTERESTING.
I seem to recall one of the reasons I stopped watching races was that announcers were not to say the car sponsor’s name unless they PAID. So…it became Ned Jarrett taking 17 minutes to describe “the red white and blue Ford number 6 car being driven by….” when he could have said “the Valvoline car”
Also…I seem to recall the same for racetracks and race title sponsors…
And YES…I noticed on a couple model kits, the fender Goodyear decals were conspicuously missing.
Always the dollars….. |
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