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Lionpride
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 Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:07 am Post subject: A & M Taurus |
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| On FB, a member of one of the modeling groups got a hold of a A & M Taurus "kit." I did not know any of the story. New owner deciding what the best way will be to copy and sell. Interesting. |
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DaveVan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Are you talking about the Accurate Miniatures NASCAR Taurus kit??? I was involved with AM at the time. My brother in law worked for them. No production kits were ever made, only test shots. AM closed down before the project was finished. FYI the tooling included a snap version that Testors was going to sell as a pre painted kit.
I'd be interested to know where this person got the kit......When AM shut down they gave me all the Taurus parts they had at the time. Here is all the parts to the kit.
https://public.fotki.com/DaveVan51/accurate-miniatures/ |
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Tom Birky
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at one at a model car swap meet a couple of years ago. Body missing but everything else was there on parts trees. It was nice, but without the body I passed on it. Dave, those are the same parts as the one he has pics of on fb.
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Gary66
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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The guy on Facebook has the entire kit, including the body.
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DaveVan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| While the AM kit is nice, both were designed by Bob Johnson so are very similar. The detail is a little better on the AM kit and it was more current at the time......but I'd not pay a lot of $$$ for a 3D print of it. |
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Papadoc
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| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| What year is this kit from? It looks like maybe 98-99? |
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18degrees
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:28 am Post subject: |
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I would LOVE to get ahold of a couple of the “X” exhaust pipes if this person would consider printing the parts and separating them from the rest of the kit. I feel the exhaust would be a big seller.
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Scotty
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:21 am Post subject: |
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18,
Yes! I am friends with Chris on Facebook and have actually ordered one of his resin Lumina bodies. They are beautiful! He doesn't do half crap. His stuff is next to perfection. I have ordered from Jay's as well and I do believe this is who he is thinking of partnering with to do this. When he asked which parts do people want to see the most of, I mentioned the X pipes as the number 1 for me. R/M just always stuck with a generic exhaust, and it always seemed cheap to me. A 3D trans linkage like in the AM kit seems nice to have as well to me. Chris is a great guy to work with and I think he is on to something. But overall, I agree with you on the X pipe, it is a nice piece to have, especially if we want to be building a nice plate car from that era.
Take care man! |
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18degrees
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Scotty, let’s make it happen!
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Scotty
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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18,
I'm in! Let's do this! |
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Lionpride
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I drew up a X Tube this afternoon. If I can send someone the pics and they could post them I would appreciate it. I can't figure out a way to do it. Beyond frustrating.
Curious to get feedback if I'm close.
Thanks!!!
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Dennis O
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Your post asks for a password to enter.........
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naskoalcar
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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And no one has the means to take over?
I guess AM's molds are somewhere..
Too bad they had to close the doors.
in what year? |
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DaveVan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| naskoalcar wrote: | And no one has the means to take over?
I guess AM's molds are somewhere..
Too bad they had to close the doors.
in what year? |
Tooling for the Taurus was shopped around....no one wanted it at any price. Everyone thought the time for a NASCAR Taurus that 90% of customers could not tell the difference from the RM kits was worthless. The Vette tooling is MIA and the McLaren tooling may be KIAs by now. Many of the plane kits were sold off. |
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naskoalcar
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Sorry but what are MIA and Kia abbreviation   |
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naskoalcar
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Dave, from year to year we see old kits coming out at AMT Revell MPC... according to you is it possible that RM will one day bring out these Nascar kits, Regal, Monte, Grand Prix, Cutlass... knowing that JR Salvinos is releasing some of these kits again
Would Jr Salvinos have bought all the Monogram molds? |
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DaveVan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Salvinos bought RM NASCAR tooling from Atlantis. Atlantis bought all RM tooling in storage in the USA. Modern RM NASCAR tooling, and the AM Taurus tooling, is in Asia.
Anything can happen.....but note RoG seems to have zero interest in NASCAR |
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TN Vols fan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| naskoalcar wrote: | | Sorry but what are MIA and Kia abbreviation |
MIA= military term for "missing in action". In this context it probably means lost.
KIA= military term for "killed in action ". In this context it probably means destroyed.
As I'm not the guy the used the acronym in this post, I'm just guessing. Could very well be wrong.
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Gary66
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | RoG seems to have zero interest in NASCAR |
Same with Round 2, Salvino has the Allisons, Petty, Yarborough, Baker, Parsons, and maybe others under license.
I'm glad the Pond Malibu came back out but with the Coke license stuff Round 2 does, they couldn't do the Allison Coke machine again, or the DiGard 88 or Parson's King's Row. They could do the Johncock Pylon Malibu again.
Round 2 still has the Watson 1963 500 winner, I think it would sell well, the aftermarket would boom with decals and resin conversions for a ton of cars, maybe the recent issue of the Gurney Lotus will do well enough for them to run the roadster again. |
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spooker
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Gary66"] | Quote: |
Round 2 still has the Watson 1963 500 winner, I think it would sell well, the aftermarket would boom with decals and resin conversions for a ton of cars, maybe the recent issue of the Gurney Lotus will do well enough for them to run the roadster again. |
The aftermarket already is in place for that kit. Indycals and Circle Track Decals have lots of Roadster decals available and Classic Racing Resins does 5 conversion kits for the Watson Roadster, plus wheels & tires, and different vac-formed windshields. There is even an upgrade kit for the venerable old Monogram Kurtis Roadster. With so many re-issues already out there of the Watson, it might be the same situation as the Monogram NASCAR Thunderbirds, already saturated market.
Oh yeah, Indycals also did an "accurizing" upgrade kit for the Lotus. Currently out of stock, but very nice. |
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naskoalcar
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mia and KIA are KGB terms for me
Thank you for your information  |
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Gary66
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Indycals also did an "accurizing" upgrade kit for the Lotus. |
I have the resin tires he makes for both the Lotus and the Watson. Very nice stuff. |
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18degrees
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Lionpride wrote: | I drew up a X Tube this afternoon. If I can send someone the pics and they could post them I would appreciate it. I can't figure out a way to do it. Beyond frustrating.
Curious to get feedback if I'm close.
Thanks!!! |
per your request, sir...
you wouldn't know if they are going to fit right unless you whip one up and try it out on a kit, just to see where the exhaust comes out on the side of the car... at first glance i would think the pipes would need to be angled together a bit more so they come out in the proper spot.
i do like the fact that you would have them open on the ends.
if you could get them sized right and printed, i would be down for a few...
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| TN Vols fan wrote: | | naskoalcar wrote: | | Sorry but what are MIA and Kia abbreviation |
MIA= military term for "missing in action". In this context it probably means lost.
KIA= military term for "killed in action ". In this context it probably means destroyed.
As I'm not the guy the used the acronym in this post, I'm just guessing. Could very well be wrong. |
In this context your MIA is correct. "KIA" is simply referring to the name of the Korean vehicle manufacturer. It's my understanding that those kits, like Tamiya kits of that era, were tooled in South Korea. So if the tooling was scrapped it could have ended up as a KIA. |
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Scotty
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Lionpride,
Those renderings look great!
18, thanks for being able to get those posted.
Like 18, if you can get those sized right, I can work with that! Those are quite nice sir, and a tremendous upgrade from what RM gives us in the kit. This thread is scratching me right where I itch! |
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18degrees
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| Scotty wrote: | Lionpride,
Those renderings look great!
18, thanks for being able to get those posted.
Like 18, if you can get those sized right, I can work with that! Those are quite nice sir, and a tremendous upgrade from what RM gives us in the kit. This thread is scratching me right where I itch! |
they make powders and creams, and ultimately shots, to help with an itch
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Scotty
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| Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Right?! I should probably see someone about it. Maybe Dr. Van Nostrin. (It's a Seinfeld reference. I'm a big fan.)
But really, I like where this is going! Thanks to 3D printers and guys here with the computer talent, we can actually have some really great model parts after all these years! We already have talented builders on this forum. I'm just not computer literate. My wife is the web designer, I'm just a simple aircraft mechanic. I have never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, but I did work with Andy Belmont in ARCA and had my license to race in the series and test drove for Buck Baker so I do know what these cars should look like, and I want my builds to resemble them inside and out as best I can. Like I said, if this gets off the ground, I am in for a few to support the hobby and work that was put in to make it happen. I have supported Chris, Jays, Brandon Miller, 3 Amigos, Mikes, SMH, BSR, and many others like yall have, and I will continue to do so. I love this hobby, and this is a great group of builders. We support each other, and I hope this support continues!
Keep doin' what yall are doin'! |
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