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hurricane21



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:44 pm    Post subject: ‘Future’ with polished clear coat Reply with quote

I’m slowly progressing and trying to get better finishes on my cars and I’ve ran into a problem that hopefully someone here has encountered and can offer some advice. I’ve recently started using spray clear and wet sanding and polishing the surface out. I’m a religious ‘Future’ user and want to keep using it to seal the decals. I’m not real keen on spraying over them with a clear coat because I’ve had issues in the past with damaging the decals.

My problem is now that I’m polishing out the clear coat the Future doesn’t want to stay on the surface consistently. It will completely run away from certain parts of the surface and I can’t get a uniform coat. Is there a chemical deposit from the polish that I need to wash off? Do I need to move away from Future? I typically brush it on and have no problems. But now as soon as I brush it on the Future ‘runs away’ if you will and won’t maintain an adhesive to the clear. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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kurth



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your process for polishing the coat that you are applying the future over? Any coating will generally require a clean surface free of contaminants to adhere properly.

Or the surface can be so smooth it is doing something with the surface tension of the future. Maybe you are running into the same process which causes water to bead on a waxed car.
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spooker



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kurth wrote:
Or the surface can be so smooth it is doing something with the surface tension of the future. Maybe you are running into the same process which causes water to bead on a waxed car.


I think kurth has hit on it. I have Futured over some pretty rough surfaces including (fine) sanding scratches. The surface ALWAYS comes out looking like glass after a thin coat or two of Future. If I have any doubt about the surface cleanliness, I wipe it down with alcohol before applying the Future. Never had the patience to polish, and I like to protect the decals with something. HTH!

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MarkJ



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you do not use too much and make sure the work is sitting flat. like if you do a side of a car make sure that the side is upright or it will run to the bottom of the door or rocker panel. I use a wide thin brush with a lot of flexibility and try not to overlap your strokes just let them barely touch each other. and once its on dont touch it. and if it fogs dont worry when it drys the fog goes away. At least that's my experience with it.
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spooker



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a REALLY high quality brush about 1/2" wide that I use for my Future application. The key is THIN coats, and I DO overlap my strokes and even go over areas in the opposite direction to insure complete coverage. I haven't had any trouble doing vertical surfaces with this brush, either.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate the tips. I’ve thought that possibly I’m getting it too smooth and the Future slides right off. I wet sand with 1500 then use Turtle Wax rubbing compound followed by Novus 2. I finished one yesterday and scrubbed it with soap and water and that seemed to help somewhat. I brushed it on then took a paper towel and gently rubbed it over the surface. Then left the surface flat to dry. This all seemed to help.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly the acrylic Future is repelled by the oily base of the rubbing and polishing compounds. A good water/soap rinse before the Future sounds right.
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MarkJ



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hurricane21 wrote:
I appreciate the tips. I’ve thought that possibly I’m getting it too smooth and the Future slides right off. I wet sand with 1500 then use Turtle Wax rubbing compound followed by Novus 2. I finished one yesterday and scrubbed it with soap and water and that seemed to help somewhat. I brushed it on then took a paper towel and gently rubbed it over the surface. Then left the surface flat to dry. This all seemed to help.


If you're not using it already, you should get some dawn dishwashing soap. Its suppose to cut grease and oily substances. i use it, then i rinse with distilled water after a normal rinse of tap water.
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Dan Belcher



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
hurricane21 wrote:
I appreciate the tips. I’ve thought that possibly I’m getting it too smooth and the Future slides right off. I wet sand with 1500 then use Turtle Wax rubbing compound followed by Novus 2. I finished one yesterday and scrubbed it with soap and water and that seemed to help somewhat. I brushed it on then took a paper towel and gently rubbed it over the surface. Then left the surface flat to dry. This all seemed to help.


If you're not using it already, you should get some dawn dishwashing soap. Its suppose to cut grease and oily substances. i use it, then i rinse with distilled water after a normal rinse of tap water.

This is really important. It's easy to get stuff on the surfaces you're working with, so washing parts with Dawn really helps a ton whenever you're getting ready to prime, paint, clear coat, etc. Polishing compounds can leave behind some residue you need to remove, but even the oil from your fingertips can cause problems. Dawn is designed specifically to clean up oil well, so that's the most effective thing.
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