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AMT Ford Race Car Hauler help needed, please

 
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Hondo



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: AMT Ford Race Car Hauler help needed, please Reply with quote

Here's my situation.........Years ago I used part of the frame of this
model, an Astro cab-over and a 28' "pup" trailer to build an old
DW Gatorade rig. (The "ex" still loves it)

I have everything else in this kit to build it as a hauler.

Could one of you fine fellows, who may have this kit (there were at
least 3 other versions of this hauler) please measure the frame rails
and let me know how long they are?
I have the front 5" where the engine, cab etc. mounts.
I can create the rest.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Ford Hauler Reply with quote

Just happened to be messing with my built up one so had it handy. From front bumper mount to the rear of it the frame rails measure 32 1/2 cm- also possibly easier way to tell, if you look underneath the ramp body itself there are two triangle shaped guides toward the back, the rear of the frame ends dead even with the rear edge of those tabs.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TerryL,

Man, I really appreciate you taking time to do some measuring for
me on this one.
Those frame rails are pretty flat all the way and I can figure out what
to do now.

Thanks, again !! thumbsup

Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject: Ford Hauler Reply with quote

No problem, let me know if you need other info on it- heres a semi clear pic of mine

URL=http://public.fotki.com/TerryL/models-1/built_ups/img_4557.html][/URL]
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Hauler Reply with quote

Man, that brings back the memories!!!!!

Great looking rig!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry,

Man, that's a really nice job on the LN8000 hauler.
Cool Petty Dart on the back, too.
I like your detailing around the storage box hinges & doors.
(Hope mine will turn out this nice)

Is the color you used a true "Petty Blue"?
It looks kinda like the Testor's Ford Racing blue......I like that color.

Thanks again for the help,
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During that time period, Grabber Blue is really a good color to use for the Petty stuff.

I always wondered just *why* AMT choose to release that particular truck as the hauler. True, Petty ran Fords in 1969, but the Hualers Ford provided were C-600 cab overs and not that truck....... And, Petty had already been back under Mopar contract for a few years when MPC decided to release the Petty Dart. Just odd to me! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Ford Hauler Reply with quote

Thanks Hondo-
I used the old True Match line of spray paints for the Petty Blue on the Dart and Hauler. I polished out the Darts paint but left the haulers unpolished.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip on the Grabber Blue color, Ancient.

Funny, I read a good article at work today about the Petty clan.
I was very interesting back when Richard jumped over to FORD
for the 1969 season. Big ol' wing cars got him back though.........

Man, those were the good years for sure. Ford and Chrysler really
hated each other then.

The history is sure better than what they're doing now, huh? idunno

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ancient Modeler wrote:
I always wondered just *why* AMT choose to release that particular truck as the hauler. True, Petty ran Fords in 1969, but the Hualers Ford provided were C-600 cab overs and not that truck....... And, Petty had already been back under Mopar contract for a few years when MPC decided to release the Petty Dart. Just odd to me! Laughing


Probably (as I don't really know Embarassed ), it was a kit already in the AMT line up and molding an entirely new hauler was out of the question cost-wise? The entire Kit Car series was almost cancelled before it was released because of production costs (the decals required to make the Cushman car properly were never made for that very reason).

Of course, once this kit hit the streets, there is the story of Lee Petty blowing a gasket about the use of a Ford for the hauler (when Petty Enterprises was all Dodge) and demanding the kit be recalled.

I am glad we were able to get this kit at all, regardless of the odd pairing of the Ford truck and Dart Kit car.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Hondo and Bob!

Petty Blue has been an enigma for us all. The first "Petty Blue" was simply a mixture of the white and blue lacquer they had left over.

I always thought that since Richard actually played a little bit of High School football he *might* have wanted a "Carolina Blue" (that's UNC, the ONLY "Carolina") car, but I never have asked him. :D

As to the "hauler", I don't know when they first released the C-600 kit. ??? Put the C-600 with the bed, and you have a fairly close "Baker" (not Buck nor Buddy) Bed hauler that Ford used from '65 until they pulled out.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info again, Ancient.
Being a boy from Carolina........I remember that story about
Richard not having enough paint for his ('59 Olds?) car and he and
Maurice mixed what blue and white they had to get enough to paint it.
Ta da........Petty Blue.

Actually, I have a couple C600s just waiting on the TB (not Baker) body to come in so I can do a H-M hauler. I grew up close to Holman-Moody
in Charlotte and remember those trucks well.
I have researched many of the posts you guys have done on the
H-M haulers here, THANKS !

The older I get the more I like the "good old days".............. idunno

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hondo wrote:
Thanks for the info again, Ancient.
Being a boy from Carolina........I remember that story about
Richard not having enough paint for his ('59 Olds?) car and he and
Maurice mixed what blue and white they had to get enough to paint it.
Ta da........Petty Blue.

Actually, I have a couple C600s just waiting on the TB (not Baker) body to come in so I can do a H-M hauler. I grew up close to Holman-Moody
in Charlotte and remember those trucks well.
I have researched many of the posts you guys have done on the
H-M haulers here, THANKS !

The older I get the more I like the "good old days".............. idunno

Jim


Hi Jim,

I didn't grow up near the H/M shops, but I did live across from the Southern States Fairgrounds! And I moved very close to Wayne "Shorty" Mills who was a crew chief for H/M. :D

I left Charlotte in '62.

That is one of Terry's Haulers on te C-600 Stake truck kit. I cut the rear boxes at an angle to match the Wood Bros. rig. Those haulers were "Baker beds" and FoMoCo owned them. They were returned to H/M at the end of each season, changed as needed, and sent back to the teams for the next year..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ancient...........
Man here's what I remember about Southern States Fairgrounds.
Long old dirt track 5/8 mile?, with a lake in the middle.

My Mom worked at the gate and signed in the cars/drivers each race.
Dad would take me out there for the races. We would always stop
at the Flamingo Drive-In on N. Tryon St. and get a sack of burgers and carry with us to the track. I remember Wendell Scott getting out of his car during a pit stop and eating crackers and drinkin' a Pepsi...then back in the car into the race, think that was an old modified race.
I also remember Shep Langdon showing up for a convertible race with a
hardtop and he left and went "down the road" and cut the top off and
came back to race.

I just talked to a friend of mine in Carolina named Ronnie Aycoth.
He worked at H-M with our friends Pete Taylor, Larry Wallace & Tommy Turner (among others).
I think Pete was about the 1st employee hired at H-M.
He built some great engines and was also the engine builder the year Bobby Isaac won the championship with
K & K.....(1971?)

Thanks for the info on those haulers, hope to get mine going pretty
soon. Your's is just like I remember the Wood's truck.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi JIm,

At the time I lived at 4009 N. Tryon Hwy 29/49. :D

I was raised by my paternal Grandparents. Grandad had a Sportsman Coupe (Dodge) that he built (had another fellow to drive it), and my favorite driver became Dink Widenhouse in the B-29 Ford coupe. haha

I have not seen any the guys from H/M in 40 years I guess................ last one I spent any time with was Wadell Wilson when he came into L.G. Dewitt's Shop in '70 to rebuild engines for Benny's Talladega. I understand Shorty died in a wreck on Independence Blvd. in about 1965. His son and I about tore up a certain 1960 Starliner "Zippertop" (#15, Fonty Flock's) that showed up in their backyard!

My Grandad ran the Foodini Grill (almost straight across from the Fairgrounds) in the mid-late '50s on the weekends. He owned Southeastern Piping (??) , was later half owner of Charles E. Petty and Assoc.,and later worked for J.N. Pease.

Wish I could find Shorty's son, IIRC, his name was Larry.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ancient,

I remember Dink Widenhouse and his #B-29, blue and white, I think??
Dad was from Kannapolis and I think he knew Dink and a guy named
Johnny Miller that ran sportsman back then.

Larry Mills sounds familiar, I'll ask some folks "back home" if they
know of him. idunno

I used to know a girl in high school who worked at JN Pease & Assoc. drool

Small world.......huh?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jim,

Yes, it is a small world!

Dink's B-29 was white and blue with "B-29" in red and "Let the good times roll!" over the windshield. Dink is alive a well, last i recently heard. :D

Grandad sold out his half of CE Petty and went to work for Col. Pease when Charlie died suddenly.

We were living down on Catalina Ave. behind the Alamo Plaza at the time. I went to Derita and Tryon Hills before we moved.
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