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Mack
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 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:28 am Post subject: This looks legit. Good reference pics |
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This car may be off topic for the Darkside. But I would guess some of the details are very similar to the cars David drove for the Wood brothers. Any input is appreciated.
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Mack, can't see anything but your text.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| john843 wrote: | Mack, can't see anything but your text.
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Excuse me, I'm somewhat a "maroon" as Bugs Bunny would say. I'll find the link and post it.
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MarkJ
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Excellent ref pics if your building a car from this era. especially the underhood shots. Thanks for the link. |
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john843
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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That body has been "tweaked" to say the least!
Thanks for sharing Mack, interesting photo's and story.
Is this car agreed to be what it claims? Having not been restored
should make it a lot harder to misrepresent.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| As said, it is a IMSA car, not nascar. It is also not a Wood Bothers car. But it is the real deal. One race only car to the best of my knowledge. |
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Dennis O
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Wow where has this beast sat untouched since 1975.....
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Mack
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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If I recall correctly, this car was covered in one of Dr. Crafts stock car books. I'll see if I can dig my copy out.
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| john843 wrote: | That body has been "tweaked" to say the least!
Thanks for sharing Mack, interesting photo's and story.
Is this car agreed to be what it claims? Having not been restored
should make it a lot harder to misrepresent.
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So if I'm looking at it right -- it has a 1974 - ish Mercury front end, and a 1972 or '73 Ford Torino rear bumper  : |
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Bowsher built that car for service in the IMSA NASCAR GT category for the 24 hour race at Daytona that year. It is NOT a good reference for NASCAR cars of that era as it deviates from Winston Cup specs in major ways. Lots *wrong* (for NASCAR) with its configuration. The trailing arm rear suspension is not the way the cars looked for example. The body mods were also atypical. Ditto for the interior.
Still a neat car. Just a unique one that ran one race and was then put away.
Here *is* a thread at the Boss 302 forum that shows lots of details on Bud Moore's 1972 Torino... during re-restoration...that may come in handy, though.
http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=83466.0 |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| George Andrews wrote: | | john843 wrote: | That body has been "tweaked" to say the least!
Thanks for sharing Mack, interesting photo's and story.
Is this car agreed to be what it claims? Having not been restored
should make it a lot harder to misrepresent.
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So if I'm looking at it right -- it has a 1974 - ish Mercury front end, and a 1972 or '73 Ford Torino rear bumper : |
That's a base model '73 Torino grille. They were generally only used for fleet sales back in the day, taxis and police cars. You'll see one show up every now and then in a mid '70s TV rerun, usually as a police car or a US government car. They had a similar nose for '72 but I've only seen photos of those, they must have been only Government fleet sales.
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I saw the car at Charlotte Autofair back late 80's. Looks pretty much the same. If I can find the prints I'll scan them.
I like the fact it is a TORINO and not a Gran Torino. A high school buddy's folks had a 1972 Torino (not Gran Torino) the only one I ever saw that was not fleet used. Pretty rare cars today.
As stated not real good reference for a Cup car. |
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Great images! Thank you for posting.
One could make this in scale by combining an MPC Isaac Torino with a Revell Starsky & Hutch ‘76 nose, correct? I’ve measured the two kits and the Revell ‘76 is 3-4 scale inches wider at the cowl. Any ideas on narrowing that nose? |
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| Matt T. wrote: | Great images! Thank you for posting.
One could make this in scale by combining an MPC Isaac Torino with a Revell Starsky & Hutch ‘76 nose, correct? I’ve measured the two kits and the Revell ‘76 is 3-4 scale inches wider at the cowl. Any ideas on narrowing that nose? |
The '73 bumper is flatter and less contoured than the '74-on bumper. So that could be achieved by grinding down the Revell. And of course the rest of the nose would need to be whittled out to match the standard '73 Torino.
I actually scratchbuilt a bumper from Sculpey for my Warren Tope '73 Torino.
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| Firefly wrote: | | Matt T. wrote: | Great images! Thank you for posting.
One could make this in scale by combining an MPC Isaac Torino with a Revell Starsky & Hutch ‘76 nose, correct? I’ve measured the two kits and the Revell ‘76 is 3-4 scale inches wider at the cowl. Any ideas on narrowing that nose? |
The '73 bumper is flatter and less contoured than the '74-on bumper. So that could be achieved by grinding down the Revell. And of course the rest of the nose would need to be whittled out to match the standard '73 Torino.
I actually scratchbuilt a bumper from Sculpey for my Warren Tope '73 Torino.
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HOLY CRAP!!!!! That's one beautiful build.
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That's a base model '73 Torino grille. They were generally only used for fleet sales back in the day, taxis and police cars. You'll see one show up every now and then in a mid '70s TV rerun, usually as a police car or a US government car. They had a similar nose for '72 but I've only seen photos of those, they must have been only Government fleet sales.
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Kojak's original TV series ride was a '72!
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David Pearson drove it? ...no cigarette lighter? LOL 
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| Matt T. wrote: | Great images! Thank you for posting.
One could make this in scale by combining an MPC Isaac Torino with a Revell Starsky & Hutch ‘76 nose, correct? I’ve measured the two kits and the Revell ‘76 is 3-4 scale inches wider at the cowl. Any ideas on narrowing that nose? |
Grille shape is different between '73 and '74 Gran Torino also. '73 is flatter, shorter from top to bottom, and is wider at the bottom than at the top. In addition to the flatter '73 vs. the deeper "V" of the '74, the taller grille makes the bumper dip down under the grille instead of going straight across.
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