Randy Ayers Nascar Modeling Forums

[Crime Dog]

...While I don't usually watch the Salvinos stuff on FB, I did today because they promised a look at the new Indycar kits, but they spent a lot of time talking about new Nascar and started talking about the Mopar B Bodies, alluding to a Super Bird and a Magnum, then went on to talk about upcoming Mercury kits, i.e. the Montego.

The surprise to me was a Jim Clark Lotus Indycar .........hmmmm, from presumably his Indy win, they showed the tub . looks like 1/20th scale.

Anyway, some interesting stuff, the question also came up about the scale of NHRA stuff.

Not sure what any of it means, there was some guy on there who talked non stop and said almost nothing, but it might mean there could be some interesting stuff in the pipeline.
I'm not that excited about the Mopar stuff, mostly because I'd guess it's probably the wacky chassis, but they didn't say that.

They also defended the molded in color plastic saying that they are getting multiple complaints about the white plastic, go figure.

It would never have been an issue if they hadn't started the molded in color stuff, any way that's beating a dead horse, but I found some of the stuff pretty interesting, maybe they are finally finding their way. Let's hope so.


Watch it and draw your own conclusions.

[DaveVan]

Thanks for the info

[Gary66]

[Crime Dog]

[18degrees]

Maybe they just don’t understand that Revellogram did their bodies in color for a long while then switched to white… there has to be some sort of reason for that

So with the AMC tribute car that Joey Logano ran that they produced a kit of, was it molded in one color and the other colors were decals, like a complete wrap?
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[bigryan18]

[MarkJ]

I guess they will never do modern current Nascar trucks. That's money I would spend if they did.

[TN Vols fan]

[Papadoc]

[Lionpride]

I would buy the heck out of a 69 Nova late model body with a real race chassis.

[TN Vols fan]

[Crime Dog]

[Tom M.]

They've been in this business for five years now and still haven't done a reasonably accurate chassis or engine for any of their own tooling.

[DaveVan]

[MarkJ]

Well at least they are trying to give us something to build. I give them an A for effort. Their nextgen cars are pretty close to the real thing and once the model is sitting on the shelf does it really matter if it's not perfectly correct? They do seem quite pricey though. And the instructions for the nextgen cars could have been done a little better. A lot of the stuff I had to figure out by trial and error how it all fit together. Especially the suspension and the area around the engine. I got frustrated at times.

[Gary66]

They just are not plugged into the hobbyists who buy their products. It's almost as if they just decided one day to manufacture model kits without ever actually having built any. They are very flippant when anyone questions any of the accuracy issues, and when pressed, get rude and condescending. Outside of the accuracy issues, they have continued to use chrome plating and molding kits in color despite being told over and over that the vast majority of their customer base does not want either one of those.

" Our kits are Tamiya quality."
" A real modeler can fix any issues."
"Start your own model company." (My personal favorite).

I am very glad that those of you who are into the Nascar of today have kits available for you. But the issues listed above coupled with the price of any model kit in 2024 has me saying thanks but no thanks to buying any more of their stuff. IF they do a Montego, and if it is close enough to actually LOOK like a Montego, I'll get maybe one of those. But that's it.

[KDM_Racing]

[DaveVan]

Spot on Gary................All my offers of free help were met with 'Start your own model co'......

[Tom M.]

[Crime Dog]

[hurricane21]

Does anyone else have a hard time figuring out what the kit of the month is each month? Sometimes I get an email saying what it it but most months I do not have any clue what's coming. The receipt just says "Kit of the Month". I really wish they would tell us because I've made the mistake of ordering a new kit only to find out it's the same as the KotM, and I would've ordered something else had I knew that.

[randman]

[Papadoc]

[Mark C.]

Good news that they are continuing with the vintage NASCAR stuff. I wasn't super happy with the Olds that they did first, not happy at all with the '73-'77 vintage Monte Carlo, but I've found the Chargers and the Plymouth to be alright for a decent looking shelf model. Sure, the chassis are like 1970s era MPC, but at least somebody is making NASCAR kits of that vintage, because in case I'm missing something, there's ZERO new stuff for that vintage from other manufacturers, although I am happy about the AMT Malibu and the few MPC reissues that happened a few years back.

I'm not thrilled by the pricing, though recently the entire hobby has gone in that general direction. Glad I have a stash of older kits!

[Wood Brothers Junkie]

Besides all that has been said, honesty, how 10 year olds could build one of their kits? I built the 22 and 23 Mustang nascar. Good luck. And a kids price? As an adult, I am happy for what they bring out, Ford related.

[TJR74]

To be fair, they have been around for five plus years now so they have to be doing something right. They have chosen a business model of aiming for somewhere in the middle when it comes to quality and accuracy. This seems to be a pretty popular business model these days. I have gone through several appliances in the last 5 years that were supposed to be brand new.

The 73-77 Monte Carlo body needs a lot of work to approach the look of the 1:1 car, the 70s chassis is not the most accurate chassis, the windshield on the GM 80s kits did not fit and had to be redone, minor quality control issues like the Ford next gen under pan being warped, short shots on the 80s Monte Carlo, and excess flash on the Monogram chassis have cost me some time over the years. These things can all be true. Jim's responses have not always been the most diplomatic or best practices for defusing the situation.

However, I remember having a conversation with Ed Sexton of Revell and my take away was that the Gen-6 Nascar kits did not do very well and the chances of ever seeing a Nascar kit were slim to none. Just a few years ago the future of Nascar building did not seem very bright. Because of Salvinos we have the opportunity to build almost any car that ran in Nascar's top series for the last 3 years. We have a pretty accurate Charger and Roadrunner kit. The chassis isn't great but neither were the MPCs. You will be able to build any of the last several Indy 500 winners. In the future there is a good possibility of seeing a Superbird, 1/25 70 Roadrunner, Montego, 65 Indy winner, and maybe some NHRA cars. Not to mention the modifieds. You don't have to love them but the hobby is in a better place than it was 5 years ago.

[Gary66]

[DaveVan]

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