Randy Ayers Nascar Modeling Forums

Gary66 · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:48 pm Post subject:

I was thinking about this today, and I want to say once again I am thrilled for the guys and gals who wanted a modern, what they are racing now kit to build.

The hobby ,and our little stock car racing niche, needed that.

Any shortcomings or errors these kits may have ( NO kit is perfect) I am confident the builders here and elsewhere can overcome. Any model kit is more less a canvas for a builder to start with.

I may even (cough) have to scare up one of these myself.

Anyway, looking forward to what you guys do with them.

Pierre Rivard · Joined: 25 Feb 2021 Posts: 378 Location: Montreal, Canada

I don't get all the excitement about Salvinos releases.
I don't care about new this, new that, the members club and so on.
I care about great kits and am willing to pay the price for it.
But I'm still stuck on how bad the 70's era kits were. I built 2 of the Monte Carlos and and the only way to make them decent is a massive body rework and anybody else's chassis and powertrain.
I still have a 442 kit to build and just thinking of it makes me sick.
I'd rather put the effort int "nascarizing" an old amt or Revell kit because at least they knew how to mold a body that looks like the real car.
Salvinos for me no more.
Now... after months of holding back it's out.
Go ahead Salvinos, ban me. I'm sooo scared!
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Joe Oteri · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Boston

Agree with everything you said Pierre.

The biggest difference with the Nextgen car and everything else they've made; Cad drawings directly from Nascar. Hopefully this eliminates all the shoddy designs and bodywork Jim's created these past few years. Everything he's done before has been from the hip and by eye. I will say the Charger is a nice piece, but not as good as an MPC body. We all know anything's better than the Polar Lights Chargers from 20 years ago. Laughing

I'm cautiously optimistic this kit will be great, but I got my hopes up for the 2+2 and Lemans, and ended up massively disappointed....We'll see.
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WR · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 124

The Monte Carlo a little rough, I built several of them took a little work but turned out nice, it was their first one i give them a pass on that one. Built several Olds they turned out really nice no problems for me on those. Now the Chargers if you have an issue with them maybe modeling isn't for you, they are super nice, built about 8 so far and they have turned out amazing but i build shelf models for my self and for the fun of just building a model.

Joe Oteri · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Boston

WR · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 124

Joe Oteri · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Boston

3 days for a lame response like that? C'mon sweetheart, I expected better from you.....Oh that's right, you're just another brainwashed Salvino Stan that can't take the truth or any sort of constructive criticisms about this joke of a company.

Yeah let's start a model company with a guy who can't design or QC his stuff worth a damn, bring another guy in who's only claim to fame is his father worked for STP, and the third guy only knows how to talk about the Builders Club. Brilliant.

If you're gonna troll, at least be better at it. Out of all you posts here, 95% is you blindly defending them....find another shtick because it doesn't work here. GFYS.
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WR · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 124

I don't have a problem with their models, Looks like you do. If you don't like them it's simple just don't buy them. You voiced you're opinion and i voiced mine but for some reason mine made you mad.

Joe Oteri · Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Boston

The problem is you crossed the line with the, "if you have an issue with them maybe modeling isn't for you" quote. Everyone is allowed to like or dislike any model or company; don't start throwing shots or questioning builders abilities, that's what went too far.
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WR · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 124

Sorry. next time i will ask your permission before i say anything, Geeez

spooker · Joined: 11 Feb 2018 Posts: 437

Hey Joe, tell us what you really think! Laughing

Remember the difference, "Modelers vs. Assemblers"!

Probably enough "Assemblers" out there to keep them going for a while.

As Red Green would say, "If it ain't broke, you're not trying".

Pierre Rivard · Joined: 25 Feb 2021 Posts: 378 Location: Montreal, Canada

The great Bob Lutz used to say design is free. Money is in the tooling and manufacturing.
A good design will not cost you a penny more to tool and manufacture.
A bad design will not save you a penny in tooling and manufacturing.
Why in this day where we have great CAD tools and scanning technologies Salvinos comes up with bodies less representatives than what MPC did 50 years ago is beyond comprehension.
And the chassis....
Maybe the assemblers are ok with it but I can understand why the builders are disappointed.
Hey Joe, I really look forward to your next BUILD. You inspire me to improve my skills as I strive to make better race car replicas.
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WR · Joined: 10 Jul 2018 Posts: 124

Modeling is a hobby and if you build a glue bomb and you are happy with it than that's what matters, remember it' your time and money. So have fun with your builds and don't worry what everybody else thinks about it.

Gary66 · Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:17 am Post subject:

This one has gone the route. You all know the drill. Not pointing at anyone in particular.