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#88 1969 B. Baker Dodge Daytona test car

 
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Radar43



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:48 pm    Post subject: #88 1969 B. Baker Dodge Daytona test car Reply with quote

In 1969 was the #88 Dodge Daytona that Buddy Baker set the enclosed track speed record in, the same #88 Dodge Daytona that Charlie Glotzbach ran a qualifying lap of 199.466 mph for the first Talladega 500? If so was the car light blue when Glotzbach qualified the car?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and I think so, although the number style was more like the number style on the #99 car when it made its pole run. Member odcics2 would be able to say for sure on the color. I've been thinking about doing the decals for the pole run car.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom,
I got a Daytona kit just waiting !
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was "Petty Blue" from the time they painted over the B-5, late August, 1969, until Don White put yellow over it in the beginning of 1971.

The numbers in Sept. 1969 at Talladega were simple white, not stylized like the #99.

Right side had black outline, other side didn't!!

In addition to Baker & Glotzbach, Allison, Isaac, Hylton, Goldsmith and Gurnet drove the car during various tests when Chrysler owned it.

It also won at least 4 times when Don White owned it from 1971 on. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:03 pm    Post subject: #88 Reply with quote

Ok Tom, looks like several of us need decals. What if we pay inadvance to help get the paper.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:28 pm    Post subject: Baker Daytona Reply with quote

Tom, I’m down for a couple of sets as well! 😊
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

odcics2 was kind enough to share these photos of DC-93 being lettered and making its pole run. I've seen the photos but these are higher-quality images than I had seen before. You can see the outline present around the numbers being applied to the passenger side the grandstand sees, the driver's side didn't get outlined. It was an eventful few days at Talladega, and 1-shot dries at the same rate no matter how rushed the painter is.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:14 pm    Post subject: #88 Reply with quote

I found these pics earlier this week and this is what got me researching the car. Thanks for posting them. And decals...…
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the car when it ran the 200 mph. Lap did not have a number on the drivers side.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BVAUGHN wrote:
I believe the car when it ran the 200 mph. Lap did not have a number on the drivers side.
Bill


100% correct. And the "88" painted on was different than the '69 Talladega look.

Only a few sponsor stickers.... Black Goodyears on fender and wing.
Scat Pack on wing.
Hurst, Champion, Union and IR on the fenders.
The IR said "Power Tools" under the logo, NOT professional tools!!

There was the silver backed "Dodge" right above the black air intake on the nose. Front spoiler is natural aluminum.

The "Dodge" on the 1/4 panel was painted silver, along with the roof 88 and pass door.

The back panel had "88" on both sides with "Charger" in the middle.
Whiter with yellow outlines.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

odcics2 shared more photos of both the pole run car and the 200 MPH run version of DC-93.



Hood lettering for the pole run version








Contingencies as photographed the day after the 200 MPH run:


Trunk hinges drilled for weight removal:

Gurney testing at Riverside in Dec. 1969:


Interior was B5 Blue, left satin finished:


Note the snap-on carpeting on the tunnel and the visible tubing of the chassis X-brace in the floor:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone needs detailed info, feel free to ask.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Sir. Those are some great pictures.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill J wrote:
Thank you Sir. Those are some great pictures.


You are welcome.

Link to more current pics - https://www.bigirongarage.com/1969-dodge-charger-daytona-dc-93

Interior color and chassis was always B-7 blue. Underhood, firewall and engine bars got the Petty Blue when the exterior was painted, beginning of Sept. 1969.

Note the droop of the front clip, starting over the front wheels going forward. Also, the slight 1/4 panel flare from the rear of the door to the tire opening. The 1/4 is pulled out AND down!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom M. wrote:
I've been thinking about doing the decals for the pole run car.


Hi Tom, Wondering if you made decals for this car? I would be interested in 2 sets. Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta love Daytona Chargers.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like proof of the "Petty" blue. I don't believe for a second that they shared that color with another team for whatever reason, especially since it was such a closely guarded secret for so long.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdamtheWayne wrote:
I'd like proof of the "Petty" blue. I don't believe for a second that they shared that color with another team for whatever reason, especially since it was such a closely guarded secret for so long.


I hear you. I would think it would be Chrysler's corporate Blue (like their logo) which Nichels had used on the earlier Goldsmith Plymouths.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firefly wrote:
AdamtheWayne wrote:
I'd like proof of the "Petty" blue. I don't believe for a second that they shared that color with another team for whatever reason, especially since it was such a closely guarded secret for so long.


I hear you. I would think it would be Chrysler's corporate Blue (like their logo) which Nichels had used on the earlier Goldsmith Plymouths.


I do seem to remember that the Woodward Superbird was Petty blue (or so close I couldn't tell the difference) in the couple of color pics I've seen of it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg, does the script across the air intake say "Woodward Garage" ?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did “Basin Street” blue appear in the colour charts?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1972, but Corporate blue began in '70 I believe.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ford Grabber blue ?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about grabber but, Basin street has been revived in recent years on the Jeep Chief, called of all things, Chief Blue.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So to Confirm as its a little confusing -

Pole winning car in 1969 - White 88 on the drivers door with no outline. White 88 on passenger door with outline

200mph car in 1970 - Silver 88 with yellow outline on passenger side door. No 88 at all on the drivers door.

Is this correct? Also can anyone confirm roof & trunk numbers?

Im wanting to build these cars in 1/25 soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john843 wrote:
Greg, does the script across the air intake say "Woodward Garage" ?


John


yes!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mopargreg wrote:
So to Confirm as its a little confusing -

Pole winning car in 1969 - White 88 on the drivers door with no outline. White 88 on passenger door with outline

200mph car in 1970 - Silver 88 with yellow outline on passenger side door. No 88 at all on the drivers door.

Is this correct? Also can anyone confirm roof & trunk numbers?

Im wanting to build these cars in 1/25 soon.


Correct on door numbers.
Roof and trunk silver for 200 run. Hard to tell if there is a yellow outline.

At Talledega in 69, I don't see nose, roof or decklid numbers on the pic above.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john843 wrote:
Firefly wrote:
AdamtheWayne wrote:
I'd like proof of the "Petty" blue. I don't believe for a second that they shared that color with another team for whatever reason, especially since it was such a closely guarded secret for so long.


I hear you. I would think it would be Chrysler's corporate Blue (like their logo) which Nichels had used on the earlier Goldsmith Plymouths.


I do seem to remember that the Woodward Superbird was Petty blue (or so close I couldn't tell the difference) in the couple of color pics I've seen of it.

John


Closely guarded secret?? LOL!
The 69 Road Runner was available in a "999" special order paint code which was "Petty Blue". Chrysler had the "formula".
Side by side, Corporate Blue is darker than Petty Blue.
But, I don't know much, just worked for Chrysler 37 years and own the #88 which has original parts painted Petty Blue. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From board member Runnernut2: In 1966 or 1967. Chrysler Corporation did sell Plymouth Belvederes marketed in the South that were painted "Petty Blue." It might of been a regional deal, but they were Petty Blue.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets not forget that SuperBirds were available with the "999" paint code also.
I believe that 50 were built with "The Kings" color !!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/plymouth/662770-1969-plymouth-road-runner-petty-blue-in-barn-survivor-original-rare.html
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0521-462053/1969-dodge-hemi-daytona-race-car/

Link below has easy to download pics of the finished car.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,137139.125.html
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