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Viperguy
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:08 pm Post subject: Ricky Rudd Gatorade Olds |
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I just purchased the SMH 1/24 Olds body. I would like to do it as the Gatorade Olds that Ricky Rudd drove. Are their any pictures available that I could use? |
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BW
Joined: 01 Feb 2018 Posts: 218 Location: Lick Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Saved this one a while back. Sorry it's in B&W. I'm sure there are some in color. Just try a Google search.
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BW
Joined: 01 Feb 2018 Posts: 218 Location: Lick Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just found this one:
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Mack
Joined: 28 Jan 2018 Posts: 732 Location: deep south
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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you have decals? _________________ life is hard, it's harder when you're stupid. John Wayne |
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Tom M. Board Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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The Powerslide decals for the Grand Prix and Regal should fit fine, you might have to creatively trim the front of the forward set of green panels then refit the outline stripe but it shouldn't be difficult. |
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Viperguy
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. Yes, I plan on using the Powerslide decals. |
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Viperguy
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I just have one question. The front end is shaped almost like the Buick but I read that the
Olds wasn't very aerodynamic and the drivers had trouble driving it |
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Tom M. Board Moderator
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Viperguy wrote: | I just have one question. The front end is shaped almost like the Buick but I read that the
Olds wasn't very aerodynamic and the drivers had trouble driving it |
I suspect the issue was at the rear. On the Olds the middle of the trunk dropped down an inch or so in between vertical taillights, which effectively hid the spoiler from air spilling around the sides of the roof.
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George Andrews
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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From racing news stories of the time period, I recall that the 1981 Olds Nose, with its' shovel profile, and the recessed - center decklid, combined to make the car both push ( front end ) and loose ( back end ). While the Buick front end looked similar, it was in fact more stable at speed than any other GM body except the Pontiac Lemans. During Speedweeks 1981 at Daytona, NASCAR increased the allowable rear spoiler size twice, in an effort to make the cars more stable (and drivers happier). Though Bobby Allison would dominate Speedweeks activities in his LeMans, the thirsty engine would run him out of gas -- twice -- and hand the win to Richard Petty in his Buick.
Once NASCAR changed the rules to discourage use of the Lemans, most GM teams quickly switched to the Buick, which would win 47 of 61 Cup races in 1981 & '82. Conversely, the 1981 - '85 Olds Cutlass body would not win a single NASCAR Cup race, although Winston West driver Jim Robinson would win 13 short track races in his Olds from 1981 to '85. |
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Jim N
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:47 am Post subject: |
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George Andrews wrote: | From racing news stories of the time period, I recall that the 1981 Olds Nose, with its' shovel profile, and the recessed - center decklid, combined to make the car both push ( front end ) and loose ( back end ). While the Buick front end looked similar, it was in fact more stable at speed than any other GM body except the Pontiac Lemans. During Speedweeks 1981 at Daytona, NASCAR increased the allowable rear spoiler size twice, in an effort to make the cars more stable (and drivers happier). Though Bobby Allison would dominate Speedweeks activities in his LeMans, the thirsty engine would run him out of gas -- twice -- and hand the win to Richard Petty in his Buick.
Once NASCAR changed the rules to discourage use of the Lemans, most GM teams quickly switched to the Buick, which would win 47 of 61 Cup races in 1981 & '82. Conversely, the 1981 - '85 Olds Cutlass body would not win a single NASCAR Cup race, although Winston West driver Jim Robinson would win 13 short track races in his Olds from 1981 to '85. |
Great stuff George! |
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Viperguy
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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If I remember right from watching that race, twice, that Richard won it because he got smart and took only one can of gas. |
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George Andrews
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Viperguy wrote: | If I remember right from watching that race, twice, that Richard won it because he got smart and took only one can of gas. |
Well -- Yes & No. Petty Enterprises had done their homework, and arrived at Daytona Speedweeks 1981 with a new and different chassis, ( built by Jay Hedgecock I recall ) and utilizing a different rear suspension with short trailing arms. The # 43 car handled well enough during the race that crew chief Dale Inman noticed ( correctly ) the minimal tire wear, and opted to forgo new tires on the last pit stop. As Richard himself said in Victory Circle: " We've won this race when we out - ran 'em, when we out - lasted 'em, when we out - lucked 'em -- now we won when we out - thunk 'em. " |
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Tom M. Board Moderator
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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George Andrews wrote: | Viperguy wrote: | If I remember right from watching that race, twice, that Richard won it because he got smart and took only one can of gas. |
Well -- Yes & No. Petty Enterprises had done their homework, and arrived at Daytona Speedweeks 1981 with a new and different chassis, ( built by Jay Hedgecock I recall ) and utilizing a different rear suspension with short trailing arms. The # 43 car handled well enough during the race that crew chief Dale Inman noticed ( correctly ) the minimal tire wear, and opted to forgo new tires on the last pit stop. As Richard himself said in Victory Circle: " We've won this race when we out - ran 'em, when we out - lasted 'em, when we out - lucked 'em -- now we won when we out - thunk 'em. " |
The Hedgcock cars with the short arms were later, after Petty came back from Curb. The '81 Buicks were Laughlin chassis just like Bobby's LeMans. Those short arm chassis that Petty ran later were horrid. |
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George Andrews
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Tom, for jogging my memory. I do recall Junior Johnson messing around with a short trailing arm chassis in the 1980 - '81 off - season. He did some lobbying to NASCAR with a quote I still remember : " If they try to use those long truck trailing arms on the next generation of Stock Car, they will have to pivot the arms off the bottom of the oil pan. " |
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Jerry Strobel
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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George Andrews wrote: | From racing news stories of the time period, I recall that the 1981 Olds Nose, with its' shovel profile, and the recessed - center decklid, combined to make the car both push ( front end ) and loose ( back end ). While the Buick front end looked similar, it was in fact more stable at speed than any other GM body except the Pontiac Lemans. During Speedweeks 1981 at Daytona, NASCAR increased the allowable rear spoiler size twice, in an effort to make the cars more stable (and drivers happier). Though Bobby Allison would dominate Speedweeks activities in his LeMans, the thirsty engine would run him out of gas -- twice -- and hand the win to Richard Petty in his Buick.
Once NASCAR changed the rules to discourage use of the Lemans, most GM teams quickly switched to the Buick, which would win 47 of 61 Cup races in 1981 & '82. Conversely, the 1981 - '85 Olds Cutlass body would not win a single NASCAR Cup race, although Winston West driver Jim Robinson would win 13 short track races in his Olds from 1981 to '85. | It took the GOAT to even get one of these Olds a pole position, David Pearson driving the #12 Kenny Childers entry at the May 17th 1981 running of the Mason-Dixon 500 at Dover International Speedway. David finished 25th after completing 57 laps due to engine failure. |
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Viperguy
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I was recently watching one of the 125's and Buddy Baker was doing good in the Hoss Ellington car until he was freight trained. |
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George Andrews
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Viperguy wrote: | I was recently watching one of the 125's and Buddy Baker was doing good in the Hoss Ellington car until he was freight trained. |
Yea -- back then Hoss Ellington could have built a John Deere Cotton Picker that would qualify in the Top 10 !!! In reality, I was always a bit surprised that the combination of Buddy Baker and Hoss Ellington ( both hard chargers ) didn't score any Cup victories together. |
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Tom M. Board Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if it was the downsized cars or just the natural effects of racing for over 20 years but Buddy only had one more career win in him after 1980. |
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George Andrews
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Tom M. wrote: | I don't know if it was the downsized cars or just the natural effects of racing for over 20 years but Buddy only had one more career win in him after 1980. |
Yea -- it just doesn't figure, Tom. Buddy Baker drove for Hoss Ellington, Harry Ranier, and The Wood Brothers from 1981 through 1984, admittedly on a limited schedule, but still only hoisted a single Winner's Trophy during that time. : |
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