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  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
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PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:42 pm   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
rob, i've been playing with casting too and been having problems with air bubbles also. what do you do to avoid them short of using a vacume chamber? also what did you learn about one piece molds? i ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:51 pm   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
I finally found an unbuilt kit with a white body, so I could finally photograph them side by side:

https://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/models/images/tbird-127.jpg

https://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/mod ...
  Topic: Windshield of the Monogram 83-86 T-bird too flat?
Rob de Bie

Replies: 2
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PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:48 pm   Subject: Windshield of the Monogram 83-86 T-bird too flat?
If you look at some reference pics of the actual race cars, there's a cowl panel piece that is omitted on the model kit cars, that has a rectangular opening in the center of the cowl panel for fresh a ...
  Topic: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Rob de Bie

Replies: 16
Views: 2396

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:42 pm   Subject: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
I've checked the newer 'Bird kits, they have different front clips, mainly the lower control arms are a different type. Not correct for the 'Bird you're building. The tire/wheel assembly is actually w ...
  Topic: Windshield of the Monogram 83-86 T-bird too flat?
Rob de Bie

Replies: 2
Views: 886

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:32 am   Subject: Windshield of the Monogram 83-86 T-bird too flat?
I'm building and converting a Monogram 83-86 T-bird to represent Bill Elliott's 1985 Daytona car. The latest detail I noted is how flat the windshield looks:

https://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/models/ ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:24 am   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Hey Rob, what resin are you using using for your wheels, polyurethane or polyesther?

Thank you for bringing back this topic!
These are very old castings, when I still used epoxy resin. I guess the ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:44 pm   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
As I posted previously, you could razor saw the lower control arms from the front steering, and suspension components, then square them to the desired wheel base length, and front track by removing ma ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:40 pm   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
I looked at Monogram built 'Birds from various newer models, and a built AMT 'Bird, and not seeing any difference in track width in any of them. There is a difference in wheel base, with the Monogram ...
  Topic: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Rob de Bie

Replies: 16
Views: 2396

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:37 pm   Subject: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
A brief update: this afternoon I removed the boss of one of my resin wheels, and the fit on the car (including brake disc) looks quite promising. The steering arm is in the way, I'll have to modify th ...
  Topic: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Rob de Bie

Replies: 16
Views: 2396

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:33 pm   Subject: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
I would try the AMT chassis snout or possibly the entire chassis for this project. I've not measured the differences of 1/25 vs 1/24 but by eye both kits have there own advantages.
This is a Monogram ...
  Topic: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Rob de Bie

Replies: 16
Views: 2396

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:49 am   Subject: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
A brief update: this afternoon I removed the boss of one of my resin wheels, and the fit on the car (including brake disc) looks quite promising. The steering arm is in the way, I'll have to modify th ...
  Topic: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Rob de Bie

Replies: 16
Views: 2396

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:28 am   Subject: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Sorry guys, I hadn't noticed there were so many replies! Thanks to all who commented.

I narrowed my Thunderbird body until it (more or less) agreed with photos of the 1985 Daytona race. The kit had ...
  Topic: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
Rob de Bie

Replies: 16
Views: 2396

PostForum: Grayside Racers Corner 1973 - 1989   Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:39 pm   Subject: Wheel track of Monogram Nascar kits
I'm building Bill Elliott's T-bird as driven in the 1985 Daytona race. I've changed the Monogram kit body heavily to give it a much narrower body, like I see in the photos.

https://robdebie.home.x ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:28 am   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
One problem you may encounter concerns the body sitting too high on the chassis. On my T-Bird I found that the door ledges were too thick, and sat on top of the upper door roll bars. I thinned down th ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:25 am   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
The track, and wheel base are easy to adjust. No need to get scale calipers out. You mentioned the rear suspension components have built in adjustments. I think everything is close enough in the kit c ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:23 pm   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
My girl friend's Mom passed, and I'm with her now at her home at the beach. Away from my kits, so haven't got to look at that part of my feasibility study, yet. Will also try to get some side by side ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:31 am   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
I was actually mulling over the idea of using one of the newer 90's something 'Bird chassis that is more detailed, and better in several aspects than the older 'Bird chassis. Tom, what's your take on ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:28 am   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Thanks for bringing this back!

Regarding that issue with the front end - should we assume that the correct alignment would have the center of the spindles on-center with the frame crossmember? (whi ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:42 am   Subject: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Don't forget to stretch the wheelbase of the kit chassis. It's always been too short.

There's also this problem:

https://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/models/images/tbird-47.jpg

It messes up the w ...
  Topic: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
Rob de Bie

Replies: 27
Views: 3671

PostForum: The Fab Shop   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:39 am   Subject: Re: Bill's narrowed up speedway 'Birds
There was a board member here that went to great lengths in an attempt to achieve an accurate representation of this "Awesome" ride, and his efforts inspired me to do a feasibility study of ...
 
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